Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Hall of Knowledge > The Campfire

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29   #1
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default How to become MM ??

K, I failed miserably with my skills to become good minion master.
I'm lvl 20 Necro/Monk with 60 armour 556 Helath and 42 energy
Death Magic - 20
Blood Magic - 20
Healing Prayers - 6

Now can someone help me pick my skills, cuz I'm so lost it's not even funny. I never got anywhere over 4 lvl 16 minions, they just keep dying and when I use Demonic Flesh my Health bump up to like 750.
ToyoXrsPl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:32 PM // 13:32   #2
Forge Runner
 
majoho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Denmark
Default

try to read the Necromancer forum

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/f...play.php?f=208

In my personal opinion mesmer is a better secondary for a MM

also you want to spend most points in Death Magic and Soul Reaping

(and you can't have 20 points in any attribute).
majoho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36   #3
Banned
 
Gamez Gordaan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hilversum (The Netherlands)
Guild: Immortals Forever [IF]
Profession: W/
Default

Skills:
1.Animate Flesh Golem (Factions) Elite Skill
2.Animate Bone Fiend
3.Animate Bone Horror
4.Blood of the Master
5.Blood of the Master
6.Heal Area
7.Healing Breeze
8.Rebirth


but i never take bone horrorrs with me ^^
Gamez Gordaan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:48 PM // 13:48   #4
Frost Gate Guardian
 
quad's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Guild: New Phoenix Rising
Profession: Mo/N
Default

Nice Gamez Gordaan, u must be pro to bring Blood of the master twice! ^^
quad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51   #5
Academy Page
 
Infinity^'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: House Behelit
Profession: R/
Default

My MM skills:

1. Healing Breeze
2. Heal Area
3. Blood of the Master
4. Animate Bone Fiend
5. Animate Vampiric Horror
6. Animate Flesh Golem [Elite]
7. [Empty] Cap Sig or something
8. Rebirth

Attributes:
16 Death (12 + 1 scar pattern + 3 rune)
10 Sould Reaping (9 + 1 rune)
rest in healing

Basicly 4 and 5 are both animate skills so I can bang off one after the other, getting the number of minions I control up, vampiric horror also has a fairly long recharge. I prefer these minions because they are stronger than horrors or minions.

10 in soul reaping is enough to give you decent energy management.

Once you get up to 10 minions, or dont have any more corpses, continue to use blood of the master followed by heal area. (but dont go mental, try and save around 15 energy incase someone dies and you want to raise a minon)

Oh, and I have Ghials staff which gives a chace for faster casting and recharge on death magic, and remember to wear the boots which target corpses faster.
Infinity^ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 15, 2006, 10:00 PM // 22:00   #6
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Profession: W/Mo
Default

I use Ranger as my secondary profession so I can use Troll Unguent as it was healing breeze and spam Blood of the Master to heal my minions

The difference is that you can have a weak pet and get it killed fast so you can raise a golem or any other minion w/o needing any corpse at all. Plus you can rebirth the pet with 10% healt and get it killed again to have an infinite spawn source
powerk21 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05   #7
Forge Runner
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thornill, ON, Canada
Guild: THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)
Profession: W/R
Default

My MM build:

Animate Flesh Golem (e)
Animate Bone Fiend
Animate Bone Minions
Blood of the Master
Verata's Sacrifice
Death Nova
Blood Renewal
Rez Signet

N/Me:

Death Magic: 12 (+ rune + scar)
Soul Reaping: 12 (+ rune)
Blood Magic: 3 (+ rune)

You can remove VS if you want to cap.

This is the build I run, and it works for me.

Hope this helps
Pick Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18   #8
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: UK
Default

N/Mo

Attribute points:
Death Magic - 16 (12+1+3)
Soul Reaping - 12 (11+1)
Blood Magic - 7 (6+1)

Skills:
Animate Flesh Golem
Animate Vampiric Horror
Animate Bone Fiend
Blood of the Master
Verata's Sacrifice
Dark Bond
Reversal of Fortune
Rebirth

Armor:
+energy and Bloodstained Boots

Weapon:
+5energy (while ^50%) +20% recharge time of death magic
+1 death magic(20%) +30hp
Cold is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40   #9
Ascalonian Squire
 
stargate_sg1sg1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Guild: We Need Therapy [NOW]
Profession: Mo/W
Default

You can't get 20 in an attribute the best you can do is 16 with the 20% chance of 17
stargate_sg1sg1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2006, 05:28 PM // 17:28   #10
Ascalonian Squire
 
TheDrake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Xen of Onslaught
Profession: N/
Default

My bar looks like:

1. Optional (damage of some kind)
2. Flesh Golem [e]
3. Bone Fiend
4. Bone Horror
5. Blood of the Master
6. Taste of Death
7. Taste of Pain
8. Heal Area / Blood Ritual / Res

I never take vampiric horrors because the energy cost is too high and the recharge too slow. The bone horror is there to keep the bodies flowing while energy is low or bone fiend is still recharging.

Taste of death is there for a quick save if things get too dicey. It's also useful to sac the golem while you're healing everything else and then make a fresh golem.

Taste of pain is a good self-heal if you can manage it carefully.

One of the tastes could be swapped out for verrata's sacrifice if you carry heal area, but I still like to have a quick self-heal if your monk is a little busy.

BR is always appreciated by your casters, and for situations where you absolutely need to have a res, it can go in place of br or in place of the damage.
TheDrake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 16, 2006, 06:17 PM // 18:17   #11
Desert Nomad
 
Hella Good's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Guild: None, free and clear
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ToyoXrsPl
K, I failed miserably with my skills to become good minion master.
I'm lvl 20 Necro/Monk with 60 armour 556 Helath and 42 energy
Death Magic - 20
Blood Magic - 20
Healing Prayers - 6

Now can someone help me pick my skills, cuz I'm so lost it's not even funny. I never got anywhere over 4 lvl 16 minions, they just keep dying and when I use Demonic Flesh my Health bump up to like 750.
Well, lets start with you sharing the secret of getting DM to 20 and BM to 20, all the while having skill points to spend in HP. Reminds me to point out that if you need HP to be a good MM, you need to learn to play Necro better. Blood Renewal or Demonic Flesh in combo with Dark Bond can keep you nice and healthy all the while BotM is all you ever need to heal your minions. Oh and use Soul Reaping (doh) and OoB if you go for expensive summons.

Last edited by Hella Good; Aug 16, 2006 at 06:19 PM // 18:19..
Hella Good is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54   #12
Academy Page
 
Sauron the Evil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: The Lost Haven
Profession: E/Me
Default

I think he means how many attribute points he has in those attributes, not the level of the attribute.
Sauron the Evil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #13
Forge Runner
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thornill, ON, Canada
Guild: THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)
Profession: W/R
Default

Sadly that can't be right either.

Twenty? Thats so low. I think its just from memory as to what was the last amount of points into the attributes. Max is 97 per attribute, so 20 seems so low.

97+97+6 = 200
Pick Me is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 17, 2006, 09:15 PM // 21:15   #14
Ascalonian Squire
 
Crushedskulls11's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Oregon
Profession: R/
Default

--Edit-- Read pick me's post wrong, seems like ur saying that lvl 20 attribute is low - lol my bad

as for getting to 20 it is possible for 1 attribute only not sure bout 2

if u use AtB u can bring curses or blood to 18 - but not death - then if u have a wand and focus both w/ +1 curse or blood mod on it u can get 20 if both 20% chance kick in but small chance of it though but nice if it did

anyway here's my build for mm

Echo
Animate Bone Horror
Blood of the Master
Vamp Gaze
Flesh Golem (E)
Taste of Death
Blood Ritual
Rez Sig

Death - 12 + 3 + 1
Soul - 11 + 1
Blood 6 + 1


basicly echo bone horrors so u can start making em left and right after u get the flesh golem and vamp gaze for self heal after using BoTM - makes it a bit easer on monks and ToD for a quik heal if things start goin bad and of course br for the eles and monks

Last edited by Crushedskulls11; Aug 17, 2006 at 09:26 PM // 21:26..
Crushedskulls11 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2006, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #15
Pre-Searing Cadet
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Canada
Guild: Lost Defenders of Orr (LDO)
Profession: N/Me
Default

Actually, what I believe the OP is looking at is the number "20" that is inside the "down arrow" beside the actual rank of the skill in question.
Stone Dog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Aug 18, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05   #16
Frost Gate Guardian
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Guild: Lords of the Sacred Chao
Profession: E/Me
Default

My MM setup... really boring and straightforward...

Aura of the Lich
Animate Vampiric Horror
Animate Bone Fiend
Blood of the Master
Taste of Death
Dark Bond
Contemplation of Purity
Some sort of ressurection.

Max out Death Magic, raise Soul Reaping to at least 10, dump the rest of the points into Blood Magic to make Dark Bond easier to manage.

Make sure you've got Bloostained Boots (ick!).
Kit Engel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:42 AM // 05:42.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("